1970 Nova factory front shocks - Page 3

Nova Research Project · #21 07-08-2002, 09:11 PM

Marlin,

Right now I am only focusing on 1970 (or 69-72 since they are similar) since that is what I have. This started because I could not find the information and I like this hobby. Maybe I am too picky about the way I am restoring my Nova. I agree that option codes can help, what the do not do is help with how they looked. and if the part number is right. COPO's are special and I am in agreement about not letting everything out of the bag. I am collecting information. I have not got to the point of debating what to publish. Buildsheets was a way to start.

350SS Yenlo Boy your good [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] , I was trying to lighten the tone of my note and wanted to see if anyone noticed. It was also to prove a point.

Lastly my point is not recreating buildsheets, but cataloging facts in a uniform manner. This may not be the perfect example but here goes.... Like what was the code for a speedo adapter for a muncie? Were the letters stamped on it? Was it a paint daub? We know the part#, but how did the assembly line worker know what one to use? It was on buildsheet so did it makes a difference, right? These are easier to track than was the bell housing painted or not. Both important one is easier to track and prove that others.

Greg

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #22 07-08-2002, 09:23 PM

G;
I understand what you are trying to do, and I think it's a good idea. There are many in the Nova community with nicely restored cars that lack that level of detail - mainly because they don't have the info.

So, what are the details on the speedo adapter? Do you happen to have an assy drawing? (I could use one, since mine is still not working properly), what are the inspection markings? etc....

Inquiring minds! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

Nova Research Project · #23 07-09-2002, 04:37 AM

Marlin,

I was looking at the pics of Dave Belk's 1970 Yenko. I was looking for applicable facts to my car when I read your reply. I know there is a code box on the buildsheet for it, yet Dave's does not have a letter code and I did not see any paint dabs (BW pic make it hard to tell) so..... How did the line know what was what? I used it for an example since Daves car looks so well done. I know they did not use adapters on auto cars. ........

Well, now that I am digging deeper, maybe this was not the best example. Close ratio used one part number the non close ratio use another part number. Do you want the numbers? The AM is too generic. I do have speedo gear charts from the P&A book if that helps. Greg

**Kurt S** · #24 07-09-2002, 05:20 AM

Greg,
No problem. I just wanted to know where you were coming from.
Most of the info on broadcast sheets is oblique, to say the least. Not much use for restoring (IMO), most of it is good for documenting a car.
Except it did show that Z's didn't get a special driveshaft like everyone thought.

On the adaptor, it only shows up on some 4.xx ratio cars. Depended on which trans they received.

I may be able to help you out. If you can send me a good broadcast sheet, I'll see how much is common to a 1st gen.

NOCOPO · #25 07-09-2002, 03:57 PM

Greg, I have found that all the info on the broadcast sheet I have is already simple documented info. There is, however some numbers on the sheet that I don't know to include a black crayon circle in the middle of the sheet for no apparent reason. The car I have is a 6cyl PG. I hope it's helpful to backup this type of information, especially from low mileage cars. Someday I hope to have a Supercar, but for now I just want to learn all I can and help others to learn as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Nova Research Project · #26 07-09-2002, 07:47 PM

Kurt;

It is a new day. I realized that I should state my goals a little more focused. I am using the Weatherford Chassis copy from Nova times as one of my starting points as well as other information gathered here and there. I want to know what the codes should be for my car so I can restore it correctly. Some of the questions I want answered are:

What is the code that was stamped on the fan clutch? Is mine original or not?
What is the code of my master cylinder. Was is coded on a tag or the pad?
What does the code for my leaf springs, where was it placed.
There are many more.

I do not expect this post to resolve these questions. I want to catalog this information by asking questions about original cars, filling out the information on a buildsheet, include notes and sources, and then making this available to others who might ask the same questions in a concise format.

I do not have any of the three build sheets for my car. Many of the codes are well documented. Some I can pull off original parts. The codes that are missing are what I need. I want to do it in such a way that I do not have to worry about some guy telling me at a show it is wrong. The Camaro Research Group is an excellent resource for Camaros. Is there a Nova Research Group? Is anyone doing this with the intent of making it available? I have seen a few duplicate posts on this board. Is anyone taking the common questions and posting them to a FAQ. The 293 vs. 429 coil is a good example.

I am willing to start to catalog facts based on examples. Then once there is a significant amount of proof, publish it on the web.

That said, there are many issues with this. Once I finish my practice Nova, I want to do a Supercar. When I do, I do not want to have cloners using these facts to perfect a clone that can not be detected. A group of experts should agree what to publish. BUT the biggest problem is the willingness of owners to part with the information.

Sorry to be long winded, I appreciate your feedback. This forum is the closest I have seen to providing correct information. I am willing to put time into something I enjoy and share it with others. Should I continue? I am I wasting my time? Greg

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #27 07-09-2002, 08:29 PM

Greg;
I know you addressed your prior post to Kurt, but if I may offer my $.02 - by all means proceed with the project if you are willing to devote the time to it.

The Nova group needs something like this. I have done this very thing for the COPO Novas, and the rewards have been well worth the effort expended.

Furthermore, if you proceed, I think we should combine our efforts. I have documented things like; driveshaft stripes, acc. cable labels, speedo cables, power brake hose tags, weatherstripping codes in the trunk, even the masking tape that held the broadcast sheet to the firewall! I think it would be useful for those people restoring their cars to have access to this type of info, and if more people offer their data, the better it will be for everyone.

Just my opinion!
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Chevy454 · #28 07-09-2002, 08:32 PM

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I have seen a few duplicate posts on this board. Is anyone taking the common questions and posting them to a FAQ. The 293 vs. 429 coil is a good example.

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I was wondering if anyone else noticed this! When I set up the new board, I had a "tech archives" section, which I felt would be a good place for such threads. But, people were wanting the # of forums cut back a little, so I combined a few here and there. It's interesting you mention placing them in the FAQ, though. On the LS1.com site, that is exactly how they set theirs up, which seems to work well.

Nova Research Project · #29 07-12-2002, 04:21 PM

Marlin,

Thanks, I did not see a post from Kurt so I will continue. I will be away from the computer for a week. I will start a new thread when I return re: Nova Research Group. We can hash out the short term goals then. This is bigger than one person can handle. I agree the we should combine our efforts. First lets set the goals. I am also pulling together a list of published facts. We can focus on what is not known, once we agree on what is known. Thanks for you support.

Greg

Nova Research Project · #30 07-12-2002, 04:30 PM

NOCOPO;

I still would like to work with you to discover more about your car. You can be a test case for the research if that is OK with you. We can either do it on the board or off line until we establish the facts. We can step through your car and see how the process might work and how difficult it maybe. I will provide you with the results and file the rest. I will get back to you after the 22nd.

Thanks!
Greg