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Old 07-03-2002, 03:14 AM
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Great and Thanks! 3192826, So you had standard suspension not "F40 Special Front and Rear Suspension" Correct? That means you paper tags should read "TG" at least that is what I am trying to prove.

147 is May 27, 1970. So you should have a really late build date on you trim tag? Do you mind checking when you get a chance?

What color are the shocks? Gray or Black? You did not see any tape tags on you springs?

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The answer is yes in most cases. My car was an original 6cyl PG stripper. It has 29K original miles on it. The shocks were grey/blue. My build code is 06A or June 8,1970 to be specific (partial build sheet from rear seat back)The paper tags were not readable as the spring tags are there but not readable either. New England is really tough on cars, even though this lived in a heated garage most of its life. Any more questions, please ask, this is the best part of the hobby, using you secret squirrel decoder ring to figure all this stuff out ! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Which build sheet? Body, Chassis, or Fisher Body? How much is there? I have blank Excel spreadsheet for the Body Broadcast and Chassis Bradcast. Might be able to recreate most of it you want to work together on it.

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Greg, So far , the only "sheet" I have is a partial "tractor feed" type of paper.(small holes down the side) It has numbered boxes with, I think, option codes in the boxes. The build date matches the trim tag as well as the VIN prefix. It appears to have been smaller than the build sheets I have seen in the past. I have not removed the fuel tank yet. I think I will just to see if there is a build sheet there. These small pieces I have were behind the upper of rear seat, which in my opinion, had never been removed. Any other places I could look ?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] If that spread sheet is emailable (new word)....... [email protected] Thanks !!!!
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Default Re: 1970 Nova factory front shocks

NOCOPO;
I believe what you have is a 'Body Broadcast' sheet, not a Chassis sheet. The Body sheet is commonly found in the springs of the top and bottoms of both the front and back seats. The back seat sections are easier to get the sheets out of. Sometimes there is a thick card with similiar info on it, stuck on top of the glove box. I have never found anything above the gas tank (must be a Corvette and VanNuys Camaro thing), or in fender liners (Chevelle thing) or behind door panels (?).

The body sheet for the Novas is limited in it's info. It will usually show N10 if the car has dual exhausts, ZJ1, ZJ2 or ZJ3 for body or interior upgrades, Z27 for Super Sports, things like B80, B84 or B90 for body side moldings or window frame moldings, M20 for Muncie 4speeds, etc...etc... It doesn't show engine codes, rear codes, or that kind of stuff like the Chevelle sheets show. The Chevelle sheets seem to be the best, if it's a COPO car they have the COPO numbers at the bottom, and if it's a Yenko they say YENKO COPO at the bottom!!
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Thanks Marlin. I have learned more about Novas since I joined this site. Never to late to learn something. I will check the glove box idea. The last car I had was a Chevelle
and I had the entire sheet showing everything including the delivered dealer. Should have never let that one get away.

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NOCOPO,

I could email the sheet, but that would spoil my fun and research. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Since you have a Fisher Body Sheet (White 8.5 x 4 inches with 1st CARD, 2nd CARD, etc down the side) the spreadsheet would not help you unless you knew the codes. I do not know all of them, but if you let me ask the questions then we might be able to get close. Once we get as far as we can I will send you the finished BODY BROADCAST COPY and CHASSIS BRAODCAST COPY file.

What do you think?
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Default Re: broadcast sheets

What's the goal for recreating a broadcast sheet?
I think that there is little benefit and large downside (esp 2-3 owners later when it's believed to be a copy of the real one).
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Kurt,

My goal is to collect enough data to help when restoring a car. See my post above dated 06/27/02 about the Camaro Research Group. The spreadsheet is NOT a repoduction. I made no attempt at getting it to print like the original. There is already someone on the net who will sell you a Window Sticker. I think there is one who does buildsheets, too. I am not trying to sell anything or create false documents. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

What I am trying to do is collect enough information about how Novas were built. Then use that information to help restorers. It could answer the quesions like "If a have a 350SS Yenko what tag goes on the master cylinder bail?" Information collected from original cars is valuable for the restorer. I think the buildsheets covers the majority of the items or is at least a start. If I can provide a spreadsheet as payment for the information collected does that hurt?

NNN had an information survey in every issue for a year (granted it was 10 years ago). Only a handfull of people bothered to fill it out and send it in. The Corvette, Camaro, and Chevelle guys have tons of books and information available. Why not us Nova guys? I understand your question. I am I missing something? Other than NNN, a few web sites, or this site there is limited documented facts available to us.

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Hey Greg;
I think your motives are pure, and it sounds like you would be providing a similar service for the Nova guys that the Camaro, Vette and Chevelle guys already have. I'm sure you realize that trying to cover '62-'79 Novas would be a huge undertaking!! I know that us Yenko Nova guys have traveled far and wide to see cars that are in original condition in order to determine the stickers, markings, routings etc.... of the little details. I have kept a list of those types of things for the COPO Novas, but obviously only distribute it to the guys with real cars - otherwise it's perfect info for a scam-clone! Most of the codes that I have seen on the Nova broadcast sheets were decipherable using the Nova option list (s), but it's the items that are not on the broadcast sheets that are difficult.

Don't look too hard for the proper code on the bail sticker on a '350SS Yenko Nova' - there wasn't any since Yenko's aren't Super Sports [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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