Early69 RS SS 396 Camaro with goofy hubcaps

[Charley Lillard]

I asked on CRG and so far there is nobody that knows of a YJ Rally Wheel dated early enough for this car. 69 was the first need for a 14x7 Rally. All 5 XT rims are orig. paint and dated the same. If it had just come with XT's with poverty caps like a base SS or COPO the rims would have been body color.

[Steve Shauger]

This car absolutely came with the dated XT rims painted silver. The spare even has a job# and the silver paint is original. As Charley stated there are no earlier built cars with YJ date rims. I debated this with John Z and many others years ago. If you research, you will find threads just on the wheel /hubcap configuration.

What I am amazed at, is how the rally cap top was mounted onto the dog dish. Who the heck would have taken the time and effort to make this work. For those unaware an XT rim will not accommodate a rally cap which is why the goofy caps were configured.

Here's the original write-up I did on the car....

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=80469

[scuncio]

I also wonder what actually happened here. Was this a special cap made in the Design Center model shop or what? How was this the sanctioned workaround versus simply crediting the dealer for the rally wheel option that couldn't be fulfilled? So strange.

Awesome car, BTW.

[camarojoe]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

If it had just come with XT's with poverty caps like a base SS or COPO the rims would have been body color.

Not if trim rings were used, the wheels would be painted silver, just as the ones on this car are.

[Kurt S]

Originally Posted by camarojoe

Not if trim rings were used, the wheels would be painted silver, just as the ones on this car are.

Trim rings would not change the color of the wheel. They would still be body-colored.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by Kurt S

Trim rings would not change the color of the wheel. They would still be body-colored.

That is correct if it left factory with wheels configured with P06/trim rings. These wheels are painted argent silver like a rally wheel. The fact remains after discussing this there are two opinions:

One opinion is it couldn't have left the factory with XT wheels painted argent silver with trim rings as a substitution due to YJ rallys unavailable that early. 20 years have passed and YJ rallys dated for the build date of this car have not been found.

or

XT wheel substitution was made at the factory due to availability, and the wheels were configured to somewhat replicate a rally.

To me(opinion) the bottom line is these are the wheels that it came from the factory. They were painted argent silver with trim rings.

All of us would love to solve this anomaly.

[luzl78]

Time to hitch a ride with Marty mcfly

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by luzl78

Time to hitch a ride with Marty mcfly

Or simply ask one of the "Doc Browns" who were there and managed the factory.

[muscle_collector]

i am going to assume that camaro and firebird kinda followed the same build, so i have owned numerous 69 trans ams over the years and a few (3 or 4) still had the original plain steel wheels with their dog dish hubcaps on them. everyone of them also had trim rings on them. a couple of them i bought from the original owners and i asked about the trim rings and they said they were on them when they bought the car off the dealer lot. so my question is did the dealers throw the rings on them to make them look better or did they actually come from the factory with them????