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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
Intake manifolds are a fetish of mine. I've messed with them all at one point or another and actually used to enjoy changing them. Anyway, if you have aftermarket aluminum heads, the Edelbrock Performer RPM is hands down the best street manifold ever made. The Air Gap Performer RPM is even better, but possibly a tiny bit taller. My all time favorite intake is the Dart single plane Oval port which has been opened up to Rectangular ports. Very, very tall though.
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
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I'll tell' ya....I've got one those #569 "pancake" intake manifolds that's orignal to my LS-6 and the funny thing is, if you turn it upside down, all the runners resemble a #163. I bought a magazine from the early '70's last weekend with an NHRA Stock Eliminator Chevelle that uses a #569. In the article, they stated they had compared it greatly to the Hi-rise, that the runners measure out exactly same, and performance was equal in their limited camshaft applications. For what it's worth. [/ QUOTE ] Was that the article on Durham's 70 Chevelle L-78 car? Jim
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
Thanks a bunch for all of your input - it is interesting on the article on the L78 Chevelle. Like I said I am kind of making the 'Day 2' street car and I want to keep an 'original' type look but want as much performance as I can get. With these responses you guys have answered my questions...I think I will look into the air gap - will this affect any of my stock choke applications or radiator hose fittings?
Thanks again
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
Mike, I have used all of these manifolds on big block engines....here is my .03 cents (inflation):
most guys back in the day switched out the low-rise for the 163 to gain some extra performance...I think the gains were more noticeable at the track than on the street. I have recently dynoed a 1970 402 witht he flat intake, stock cam, stock car...a little over 430hp...another friend had similar results in the upper 420 range. I'm sure there are another 15-20 ponies in the hi-rise...but, doubt you will feel or see the difference on the street. For a day 2 look the 163 would be my choice over the air gap, since the AG was not available back then....or find one of the older Edelbrock or Weiand units for an aftermarket day 2 style. I have attached a photo of our 70 day 2 with the 163 and the 68 car with airgap and aluminum heads...hope this helps. Let me know if I can help further. wilma
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
68 w/airgap...
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
Could you post the article on the Chevelle?
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
That is nice to see the pics Tom, thanks. Kind of Ironic I have a set of those valve covers that I was thinking of using - good to see how they will look. I am kind of torn - I may try the 163 first - was there any issues with that air gap as far as hooking hoses/choke/etc.
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
Mike, hose connections on the 68 are easier because the alternator is on the driver's side...163 connections were fine...I can send some detailed photos if you need them...you will need longer choke arm (1969) if you have the factory setup...70 air cleaner base is different for hose outlet position...fuel lines (pump to carb) and block are also different...basically you just have to use all 1969 stuff and it will work perfect. If your 70 has a throttle cable...there is no issue...it works fine.
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
A Tarantula (angle mounted carb) intake.
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Re: 1970 Nova L78 Intake '569' - perfomance!!
I think it might have the throttle cable - it was built 10B of 69 so i could almost get away with a 69 intake, no? Detailed pics would be extremely helpful.
Thanks Mike
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70 Nova L34 black on black, auto. 70 Nova L78 Cranberry Red, 4spd. |
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