1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

[442w30]

Mike, I think 358 pace cars were Cutlass Supremes, and 268 were 4-4-2s.

[PeteLeathersac]

Not necessarily the case w/ this car but keep in mind how GM Canada Vintage Services 'documents' especially those supplied in the earlier years of their service can be sometimes confusing and/or misleading..

God love George and the way things are done at GM Vintage Services now but depending on the way GM Canada personnel ever interprets the Vin specific microfilm on file also how it jives w/ what they know and information available at the time has a lot to do w/ the what's printed on some GM Canada 'docs'...again especially in the earlier years of this service..

Welcome aboard RockDaddy!

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~ Pete

A '70 Pacer Post car would be cool!.

[SmallHurst]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mike, I think 358 pace cars were Cutlass Supremes, and 268 were 4-4-2s. </div></div>

Diego,

You remember the drop top Pace Car at the PSMCDR? That car is a Cutlass with a 455. So it can be confusing to say the least.

Welcome aboard, Rockdaddy!!!

[442w30]

Rusty, I forgot about that pace car. I don't know if memory is feeble because it appeared in the pits or I had another obligation in 2003 and missed the event.

[StealthBird]

I didn't realize some of the 1970 Pace Cars were just Cutlasses. Typically, Indy Pace Cars were high perf models (or at least built off the high-perf model), so it seems strange that Oldsmobile would build some off a regular Cutlass.

Did some of these &quot;Cutlass&quot; Pace Cars have typical Oldsmobile appointments, like column shift, 350, bench seat, and a standard soft suspension?

Did the Pace Cars at least get the 442 suspension?

[442w30]

I don't know much about the Cutlass cars other than I suspect they're basic Cutlass Supremes with pace car trim. Was there some mandatory equipment for the 4-4-2s? If so, I'd suspect it would be similar for the Cutlass. I'm not sure if I have any info on them at home.

However, if you want to know about a dealer-prepped pace car for Dover Downs, I can answer all the questions you have! :-)

[StealthBird]

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Well, doesn't seem to be much info on the web about the 1970 Olds Pace Cars. Just surprising that Olds would build some in the base Cutlass trim, with 350's. At least the 442's had different suspension, rear sway bar, dual exhausts, etc. I would have thought all the Pace Cars would at least have bucket seats and a console.

But why offer the 70 Pace Car on a regular Cutlass? Couldn't have been for insurance reasons....I mean, you tell your insurance agent you bought a 1970 Cutlass, not a 442, but it's a convertible (which raises the rate), and it's a special option code that makes it an Indy Pace Car, something I would imagine would be targeted by thieves.

[442w30]

It's not a &quot;Regular&quot; Cutlass - it's a high-zoot Cutlass Supreme.

[Rockdaddy]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.
We are in contact with GM Canada and are in the process of trying to figure out what this car really is. I will keep you guys posted as we get info.