COPO 9511

[Nova Research Project]

Hello,

In this thread over at Steve's, there is a Document that states the the 3.55 was not available on the Nova with the L78/M22 combo. It is dated 13 Sep 1968.

1969 Nova SS Documentation Thread Cool story and a few other documents.



Greg

[Schonyenko2]

I'd like to comment on the importance of this discussion. I, and I think may others have believed that you could order any rear ratio on a 69 Nova through 4.88 RPO. Not in 70 unless it was a COPO deuce.
The discussion now is that in 69 any ratio higher than 3.55 was a COPO order. That becomes significant as we all know how the COPO designation is thrown around to try to increase value.
The other issue relates to judging these cars, and what is now going to be correct, and accepted.
Is this an actual COPO specialty item, or is it determined to be like -- special pnt which is interpreted as a "special order" not a COPO order even though the order process is similar?

This is an important determination to make. I/we would appreciate any input anyone here might have. We want to get it right.

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Research Project</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hello,

In this thread over at Steve's, there is a Document that states the the 3.55 was not available on the Nova with the L78/M22 combo. It is dated 13 Sep 1968.

1969 Nova SS Documentation Thread Cool story and a few other documents.



Greg
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This is interesting...my 68 L78 Nova has the M22 with a 3.55 rear...really don't see the issue...if you could get an m21 the 1st gear is the same..?? certainly would be helpful to ahve the M22 with 4.10 or stronger gears...given what the car would probably be doing [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

[Schonyenko2]

Please check out the post uhnder COPO USA on the DH Nova. It shows a BV coded rear that he states is original to the car.
So how do we classify this. COPO, or RPO?

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Schonyenko2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Please check out the post uhnder COPO USA on the DH Nova. It shows a BV coded rear that he states is original to the car.
So how do we classify this. COPO, or RPO? </div></div>


Again click on this CRG F=Body chart, X cars too?.
http://www.camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf

'69 RPO G84 = 4:10 / BV
'69 Copo 9511 4:56 / BW
'69 Copo 9511 4:88 / BX


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~ Pete

[Schonyenko2]

Well, according to this, if we're going to take it literally, there should be some L89 Novas. There's nothing saying L89 Nova N/A. (Big smile)

I do see what you're referring to on the COPO rears. Again, I 'd like to see a couple of window stickers that have that callout listed. Those rears are nothing special other than their rarity. They aren't like a BE which is a heavier duty unit than a BV.

[WILMASBOYL78]

That would be cool [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img]...L89 Nova with a 4.88 COPO rear...maybe one will turn up now...Kwizz you around??

wilma [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Schonyenko2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I do see what you're referring to on the COPO rears. Again, I 'd like to see a couple of window stickers that have that callout listed. Those rears are nothing special other than their rarity. They aren't like a BE which is a heavier duty unit than a BV. </div></div>


I feel differently and think <span style="text-decoration: underline">any</span> '69 Copo 9511 cars are indeed something special, especially F-cars and ultimately more so if an X-body!.
Again 9511 being a Copo performance option is an important part of the equation and much different than appearance options!.
Also any '69 X-body 9511 cars are real Copo Novas!!!

Yes a BE was more HD than a BV but we haven't determined BW/BX and/or any 9511 rear components factory supplied or that they're lesser to BE parts?.
Keep in mind 9511 was an available option to the BE's supplied w/ the 9560/9561 cars!.

Lets look for any '69 9511 cars w/ factory build documents/parts, again a couple of F-body cars are supposed to exist w/ authentic paperwork?.
Actual components and tube stamps shipped w/ 9511 cars will be interesting to note too as what info exists suggests the factory may have supplied some cars w/ 9511 components using BE or other stamped carriers on hand and factory 4:56/4:88 cars not always w/ a BW/BX?.

On the L89 Nova topic, I'm still a believer some may've been factory shipped but until bulletproof history/build documents show up am not convinced the head games/Pop car or any others claiming to be genuine really are?.

Back to the '69 9511 X-body cars, all seems to indicate they were built so lets find these real '69 Copo Novas!.

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~ Pete