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Old 02-22-2016, 06:00 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've got a NOS 68 Impala hidden headlight door, with the vertical bars blacked out.

My dad once had a Z11 aluminum water pump that he found at Carlisle. This was at least 30 years ago. Had the 0 at the start of the part number. He ended up trading it for a bunch of 65 409 parts. Boy, does he wish he still had it! </div></div>

He's much better off with the '65 parts he can use than looking at an aluminum water pump hanging on the wall that he'd never use! He made the right decision. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:44 AM
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Verne would the 409+2x4 be about equivalent in performance to a stock L-78 or L-72. Just wonderin
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Old 02-23-2016, 01:09 PM
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I experienced a direct comparison with both a stock 2x4 409 and a stock L-78 in the same car with exactly the same set-up on the car. The ONLY difference was the L-78 ran a flex fan; the 409 ran the stock clutch fan. I had no problem shifting the L-78 at 6500 but I was more careful with the 409. 5800 shifts.
Best times:
L-78: 13.17
409: 13.31

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Old 02-23-2016, 01:21 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I experienced a direct comparison with both a stock 2x4 409 and a stock L-78 in the same car with exactly the same set-up on the car. The ONLY difference was the L-78 ran a flex fan; the 409 ran the stock clutch fan. I had no problem shifting the L-78 at 6500 but I was more careful with the 409. 5800 shifts.
Best times:
L-78: 13.17
409: 13.31

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Cool. I always wondered about this. Why only 5800 rpm with the 409? Were they fragile, or did they just stop making power up top?
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Old 02-23-2016, 03:55 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I experienced a direct comparison with both a stock 2x4 409 and a stock L-78 in the same car with exactly the same set-up on the car. The ONLY difference was the L-78 ran a flex fan; the 409 ran the stock clutch fan. I had no problem shifting the L-78 at 6500 but I was more careful with the 409. 5800 shifts.
Best times:
L-78: 13.17
409: 13.31

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Cool. I always wondered about this. Why only 5800 rpm with the 409? Were they fragile, or did they just stop making power up top? </div></div>

They make good power over 6000 but I was being careful. Pistons weigh almost 2 lbs each! Good blocks are hard to come by.

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Old 02-23-2016, 04:13 PM
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I only ever heard a 409-2x4 running once so far in my lifetime. The car rocked slightly as the engine idled. Awesome actually.
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Old 02-23-2016, 04:28 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I only ever heard a 409-2x4 running once so far in my lifetime. The car rocked slightly as the engine idled. Awesome actually. </div></div>

IT probably had a bad miss............... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:31 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I experienced a direct comparison with both a stock 2x4 409 and a stock L-78 in the same car with exactly the same set-up on the car. The ONLY difference was the L-78 ran a flex fan; the 409 ran the stock clutch fan. I had no problem shifting the L-78 at 6500 but I was more careful with the 409. 5800 shifts.
Best times:
L-78: 13.17
409: 13.31

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Cool. I always wondered about this. Why only 5800 rpm with the 409? Were they fragile, or did they just stop making power up top? </div></div>

They make good power over 6000 but I was being careful. Pistons weigh almost 2 lbs each! Good blocks are hard to come by.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thanks. My Uncle (Mom's brother) had a 425/409 in a ermine white, white interior '64 SS back in 1966-1968. He said he used to almost bury the stock (likely inaccurate) 7000 rpm tach when powershifting on the street. He said he tore through 7 or 8 rear ends, but the '09 never broke. He ultimately sold the '09 and swapped the engine for a 195hp 283 so he could get better gas mielage on the daily commute and go class racing in 1969 without constantly breaking parts. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]

He never had the '09 to the track, just street raced it. According to him, even in the late-60s, the 425hp '09 still was a fast car. He said he only would lose to 440 mopars and 427 vettes. He claims most GTOs and SS396s were no problem.
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