Unsuspecting buyers with repro documents

[ZLP955]

I know this divides car communities, but personally I really can't see why any reproduction documentation is acceptable, in any circumstances; your car either has (genuine) original docs, or it doesn't.

[Mr70]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

I know this divides car communities, but personally I really can't see why any reproduction documentation is acceptable, in any circumstances; your car either has (genuine) original docs, or it doesn't.

Because they're nice conversation pieces at gatherings like car shows & cruises.They should be used for display purposes only & not to validate a vehicle.I display a repro window sticker on the passenger side of my Chevelles' windshield,and it draws people over to talk.We're all getting older,and todays generation is clueless what these things cost back then.They like to see what was an extra cost option,and what was not.
Also,it's hard to see the specific transmission callout or the ratio of the rear end on a car sitting still,but they can on a window sticker,as well as the Horsepower of the engine in some cases,and the dealership it was sold at too.
Repro docs help to understand the car better,and should always be disclosed as repro.
Like I said earlier,tear them up the day you sell the vehicle so it can't come back to haunt you later.Let the new buyer order a new repop from Paul.Overall it just helps explain the car better & makes it all come together,which in turn draws people together.

[ZLP955]

Originally Posted by Mr70

Because they're nice conversation pieces at gatherings like car shows & cruises.They should be used for display purposes only & not to validate a vehicle.

So for 'conversation' purposes why try to mimic the appearance of a genuine document? You could easily type up a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options, selling dealer etc, and display that - and NOBODY is ever going to be taken into thinking that's genuine provenance.

[MosportGreen66]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

So for 'conversation' purposes why try to mimic the appearance of a genuine document? You could easily type up a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options, selling dealer etc, and display that - and NOBODY is ever going to be taken into thinking that's genuine provenance.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Mr.70 - I completely disagree.

Dan

[fsc66]

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[rsinor]

Originally Posted by fsc66

I posted questions about NCRS and their condonation for years allowing allowing advertising from document reproduction companies on their site and within their publications. Now NCRS and members are the first to exemplify their disdain for document reproductions. I want to hear an explanation from NCRS executive personnel who managed the company for the years this was allowed or members who are the first to express their opinions now but never had issues with their own supporting vendors.
You want credibility in this discussion, then explain the hypocracy to me and I'll be happy to entertain your prerscpective.

Respectfully Paul

Darn, I knew it was NCRS’s fault, it always is, they don’t judge paper never have probably never will. In fact to display paper it has to have their validation.

Bloomington is the organization that requires paperwork or you lose points.

As far as advertisers, I think you will find that somewhere around 2010 they stopped alllwing the fraudulent ads, a board of directors that serves two years and changes could be and in some cases was clueless to who the bad apples were or still are.

But your right it’s their fault, not yours. They make you do it. I get it.

Roy

[Mr70]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

So for 'conversation' purposes why try to mimic the appearance of a genuine document? You could easily type up a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options, selling dealer etc, and display that - and NOBODY is ever going to be taken into thinking that's genuine provenance.

Why restore an old car with reproduction parts mirroring the original used by the factory when it was sold brand new?...Because that best resembles how it looked when it was sold brand new.
If they just came with "a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options,selling dealer etc," then they'd do that today too.

[ZLP955]

Originally Posted by Mr70

Why restore an old car with reproduction parts mirroring the original used by the factory when it was sold brand new?...Because that best resembles how it looked when it was sold brand new.
If they just came with "a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options,selling dealer etc," then they'd do that today too.

Fake docs are problematic because they appear credible to all but a few experts. Just read threads like this one to see knowledgeable people who have been around these cars much of their life, genuinely asking how to spot the subtleties of a good fake.
Reproduction parts don't offer a sense of immediate credibility, and only hint at what a car may, or may not, be - further diligence and appraisal is still required.

[Mr70]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

Fake docs are problematic because they appear credible to all but a few experts. Just read threads like this one to see knowledgeable people who have been around these cars much of their life, genuinely asking how to spot the subtleties of a good fake.
Reproduction parts don't offer a sense of immediate credibility, and only hint at what a car may, or may not, be - further diligence and appraisal is still required.

My earlier repro parts reply was to when you asked,"why mimic the appearance of an original document?"..I never said anything about reproduction parts offering any credibility to a vehicle.

Reproduction display docs should be destroyed by the owner before re-sale.