Unsuspecting buyers with repro documents

[ZLP955]

I know this divides car communities, but personally I really can't see why any reproduction documentation is acceptable, in any circumstances; your car either has (genuine) original docs, or it doesn't.

[fsc66]

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[mr 707]

i dont see why the guy needed those fake documents for a 390 horse car. Was it a small block car originally? a 390 isnt exactly a rare car. Like over 5000 production. Whats was the point ? Yes original docs are great. but for a 390 ??

[Mr70]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

I know this divides car communities, but personally I really can't see why any reproduction documentation is acceptable, in any circumstances; your car either has (genuine) original docs, or it doesn't.

Because they're nice conversation pieces at gatherings like car shows & cruises.They should be used for display purposes only & not to validate a vehicle.I display a repro window sticker on the passenger side of my Chevelles' windshield,and it draws people over to talk.We're all getting older,and todays generation is clueless what these things cost back then.They like to see what was an extra cost option,and what was not.
Also,it's hard to see the specific transmission callout or the ratio of the rear end on a car sitting still,but they can on a window sticker,as well as the Horsepower of the engine in some cases,and the dealership it was sold at too.
Repro docs help to understand the car better,and should always be disclosed as repro.
Like I said earlier,tear them up the day you sell the vehicle so it can't come back to haunt you later.Let the new buyer order a new repop from Paul.Overall it just helps explain the car better & makes it all come together,which in turn draws people together.

[SS427]

Paul, from what I have seen you offer a very reputable product and do not yourself try to deceive anyone. I think it is usually the next guy down the line we have to worry about, not the original purchaser. It is great that you watermark the documents but as Charley has said, nothing is stopping anyone from copying the document and passing it along as real. As I have said before, I feel the best way to keep people from using your service in a deceptive way is to post all the VIN's as well as the car's information (even if partial but with enough information to know which car for comparisons sake) as well as which documents were made for said vehicle on your own existing site. I inspect dozens of cars each year and waste a lot of my time and the customer's money inspecting a car only to find a reproduction (fake) document. If there was a site available that I could look on before we went any further it would help a lot of people. That being said you have been very helpful and forthright when I have contacted you and asked if a specific document was one of yours.

I understand the privacy issue but go beyond that and believe that if people are trying to keep it quiet there is usually a good reason for that and it is usually not a good one.

[67since67]

Originally Posted by mr 707

i dont see why the guy needed those fake documents for a 390 horse car. Was it a small block car originally? a 390 isnt exactly a rare car. Like over 5000 production. Whats was the point ? Yes original docs are great. but for a 390 ??

Actually 390 and 435 production were virtually the same, 3,832 vs 3,754.

[TimG]

A red 390 roadster with sidepipes is not an inexpensive car. One with paperwork, original engine and judging history will bring $150,000 easily.

[ZLP955]

Originally Posted by Mr70

Because they're nice conversation pieces at gatherings like car shows & cruises.They should be used for display purposes only & not to validate a vehicle.

So for 'conversation' purposes why try to mimic the appearance of a genuine document? You could easily type up a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options, selling dealer etc, and display that - and NOBODY is ever going to be taken into thinking that's genuine provenance.

[MosportGreen66]

Originally Posted by ZLP955

So for 'conversation' purposes why try to mimic the appearance of a genuine document? You could easily type up a simple one-page sheet of paper that lists out all the options, selling dealer etc, and display that - and NOBODY is ever going to be taken into thinking that's genuine provenance.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Mr.70 - I completely disagree.

Dan

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