My old 1967 Lynndale L-79 Benchmark Corvette Roadster

[Big Block Bill]

Originally Posted by TimG

That's a great story, Bill. Tom did Top Flight the car in 1999 and it was signed off for Bow Tie in all four catagories, but it was never presented for Bow Tie judging. A future owner of the car could run it through the Bow Tie system.

Tim,

How does the NCRS Bow Tie process work? A car gets signed off on in all 4 categories, and then has to be presented at the next National or Regional meet, and when it is Judged, they decide if is a 4 or 5 Star car? I have been an NCRS member since 1986 (#16447) but have never put a car through the Bow Tie certification system.

Bill

[67since67]

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill

Tim,

How does the NCRS Bow Tie process work? A car gets signed off on in all 4 categories, and then has to be presented at the next National or Regional meet, and when it is Judged, they decide if is a 4 or 5 Star car? I have been an NCRS member since 1986 (#16447) but have never put a car through the Bow Tie certification system.

Bill

I've done this. While being judged at an NCRS Regional or National, The team leader for the appropriate year "signs off" on one or more Bowtie categories.

There is a time limit, I believe two years, to present the car at a National event for Bowtie judging only, no Flight judging. During the process, a team of several judges, four or five IIRC, will carefully scrutinize every aspect, probing all the dark corners, over a period of four or five hours. At some point Al Grenning will come by and verify the stamp. There may be an occasion question of you, but otherwise you will observe from a distance.

After all the Bowtie candidates are judged, the judges convene and discuss their finding for another couple or three hours. No judging sheets presented, you are not privy to any of the judges findings and find out at awards how many "Stars" your car is awarded. Four stars (all four categories determined to be minimum 85% undisturbed from factory production) gets Four Star Bowtie.

Tim, correct me if I am wrong on any of this. - Bill W

[67since67]

2018 NCRS Las Vegas National Convention.

Here is my ugly mug, being presented the Four Star Bowtie plaque by two former Corvette Chief Engineers, which I feel is pretty special since there have only ever been four Corvette chief engineers, and Zora is no longer with us!

[Big Block Bill]

Originally Posted by 67since67

I've done this. While being judged at an NCRS Regional or National, The team leader for the appropriate year "signs off" on one or more Bowtie categories.

There is a time limit, I believe two years, to present the car at a National event for Bowtie judging only, no Flight judging. During the process, a team of several judges, four or five IIRC, will carefully scrutinize every aspect, probing all the dark corners, over a period of four or five hours. At some point Al Grenning will come by and verify the stamp. There may be an occasion question of you, but otherwise you will observe from a distance.

After all the Bowtie candidates are judged, the judges convene and discuss their finding for another couple or three hours. No judging sheets presented, you are not privy to any of the judges findings and find out at awards how many "Stars" your car is awarded. Four stars (all four categories determined to be minimum 85% undisturbed from factory production) gets Four Star Bowtie.

Tim, correct me if I am wrong on any of this. - Bill W

Thanks Bill,

So if a car passes all 4 categories, then how does one get a "5 Star Bow Tie" then?

Bill

[67since67]

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill

Thanks Bill,

So if a car passes all 4 categories, then how does one get a "5 Star Bow Tie" then?

Bill

Neglected to mention, the car goes on a lift for the chassis category judging. While It is up the interior judges come by to look at the seat belt bolt threads for clues that the seat belts have ever been removed.

In the pic I posted, there is a gap between the center Stars. That is where the Fifth Star is placed, if you pursue it.

The process for the 5th star. Within two years of achieving the Bowtie, present the car for display at four NCRS events. Three of these can be a chapter event, but one must be a Regional. Then back to a National where the team leader (Nick C. in the case of a '67) will give it the once over to assure that nothing has been altered. Then your plaque is re-presented with the fifth star added.

Also, if at some point, there is restoration, modification, or repairs done that take the car below the 85% unmolested requisite, the Bowtie can be withdrawn.

Bill W

[Big Block Bill]

FYI, The Bid Goes on @ $130,000. I could be bias, but I think it's worth more than that. All Corvette prices seem to be a little soft right now or is it me? I wonder what it's reserve was?

Bill