Interview with Mary Barra

[70 copo]

It's not just vroom-vroom. It is the obvious corporate pandering that is afoot here.

Raising the price of the Camaro $4000.000 this year all so you can discount the Bolt... .

The pressure being exerted from every angle from those who would like to cattle herd buyers to EV's is on display, as much as the fact that gM tried to do too much too quickly and people have started to develop pattern recognition on the go that allows them to recognize the obvious.

So we have the latest:

Insulting the tradition and the name of the Corvette, so you can slap the brand onto an EV in the hopes you can get people to "TRY" something that do not want to buy.

I predict that the harder gM pushes the more difficult this will become.

Giving people what they want is one of those simple laws of nature... kind of like the fact that sane people do not attempt to swim upstream against the current of the water... But perhaps there is some hope: gM has moved the goal posts to go "all electric" now to 2035.

The question is will gM even make it to 2025 at this rate?

[markinnaples]

And just to say, I'm not against EV's in general. I think the torque and instant speed is pretty awesome, and if going to EV's actually lessens polluting the earth, even better and who isn't all for that? But I'll add that I think Climate Change is a lie and that the science is very far from settled as it's often stated. And if they think by some countries going away from fossil fuels will fight CC while China and other countries build new coal plants every month, they're dumb. Not to mention, can you imagine the electrical grid with everyone plugging in their EV's every night? Rolling brownouts will probably be the least that will happen.

[70 copo]

I want to come out and say that I not against EV's either. What I am against is being pushed, shamed, or forced to buy one.

WHY DO I FEEL THIS WAY?

Are they "green good for the environment? The amount of "carbon" required to make an EV is way way higher than that of ICE. Further when an ICE reaches end of life it can be recycled in multiple ways. Recycling ICE gave us the HOT ROD culture that exists yet today.

Where do all these EV batteries go when they reach the end of service life?

Who knows, likely, (along with millions of toxic solar panels) to a landfill of course!

Is that good for the environment?

In order to be carbon neutral wind, tidal, solar, needs to be ready and able to do the job. It is not. The decision makers know it is not and that's why we are hearing about potential rolling black outs and shutting off your AC in your home in the middle of summer.

Finally EV's are powered by coal and natural gas. This is simply a fact and to attempt to argue otherwise will make such a person look silly.

And this is EXACTLY why the WEF is now advocating for the elimination of cars - both ICE and EV.



here: https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172583

[70 copo]

Finally. The chicken is home to roost.

Mary said "20 EV's on the market by 2023".

Well it is now 2023 model year and there are THREE available to buy now.

The Bolt
The Hummer
The Lyric.

Let the countdown begin. We have 11 months left in model year 2023 GM needs to bring 17 more to market this model year. Anybody want to bet on gM making it happen?

[olredalert]

----My wish would be that GM fails the 29 EV dateline!....Bill S

[BCreekDave]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Finally. The chicken is home to roost.

Mary said "20 EV's on the market by 2023".

Well it is now 2023 model year and there are THREE available to buy now.

The Bolt
The Hummer
The Lyric.

Let the countdown begin. We have 11 months left in model year 2023 GM needs to bring 17 more to market this model year. Anybody want to bet on gM making it happen?

If they have any interest in making the deadline they will just through trim packages on these three and call those the 20. Mission accomplished by sleight of hand.

[markinnaples]

Maybe we need another option besides just gas-powered ICE and EV's?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...77e35202d6f74e

[Lee Stewart]

Hydrogen is the future. It's just more expensive (today) to implement than EV. All we have to do is substitute Hydrogen for Gasoline in our infrastructure. We can still use most of the foundation of our existing engines. Only the intake has to be changed to accept Hydrogen.

Yes Hydrogen will put a strain on our existing electric infrastructure. But not as much as EV does.

Back in the 1960s many car companies in Europe offered Propane as a fuel alternative to Gasoline. All that was required was a change to the carb.

Propane was used by American OEMs to test their engines. I know for a fact Chrysler used it on all 426 Hemi installations.

[70 copo]

Mary, Mark, and Joe.

The star of the show is the Z06 which unfortunately is on production constraint for the REST of the model year.

[markinnaples]

So they introduced the new Mustang yesterday, and it's still an ICE for now. Ford also stated that they will continue to build the Mustang with an ICE, while GM continues to commit to a full EV platform. I think that's going to end up being to GM's peril.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/14/busin...ang/index.html