'69 Turbo 400 code? - Page 4

**Mr70** · #31 08-20-2001, 05:31 AM

I must say this topic is getting very interesting for me.It all started on one mans outside inquiry.
Also to sum up:
The CY was definately used in 1970 LS-6 Chevelles,and up to 1974.
The CW was used on my L-78 1970 Chevelle,up to 1972.

CY first,then the CX later.
Rays documents look convincing for me to believe the CY trans was used in the 1968 Gibb Novas.The CY trans.was the one mentioned in the 7/12/68 letter.Not the CX as I thought.

The CX trans. wasn't out till 10/25/68.And COULD be specific for 427 COPO cars with 4:10 rears only?We need to look at serial #'s at the reunion for this,which I hope to attend.

A December built 1969 L-72 Impala used the CY trans.and not the CX.

The 1969 Special Hi-perf Corvettes used the CY code trans.,and not the CX.

I have never seen the CX trans.used in the 1970 model year.So it may be safe to say it was only used in the 1969 models.
Rick

[Edited by mr70 (08-19-2001 at 12:31 PM).]

**Mr70** · #32 08-20-2001, 05:34 AM

Cmon SS427,get him to sell it to you.
Sounds like you would enjoy it more then he would.

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #33 08-20-2001, 06:57 PM

ss427;
Did the trans have the VIN# stamped into the pan rail?
M

**SS427** · #34 08-20-2001, 08:27 PM

No, I went out again Saturday and spent another few hours checking the car over. No VIN # on tranny (which is quite common), had Tonowanda stamp, date and engine prefix on engine but no VIN number on pad in front or by oil filter. ALL dates codes of All components (excluding water pump, fan and radiator) matched car within allowable time spans. A week ago, I also had another historian and documentation expert with me and he concurred.

The car is VERY rough and I found absolutely NO reason or clue that the car was/would be a fake. I have been restoring/documenting cars for twenty five years and to the best of my abilities, this is no fake. Its a moot point as he won't sell and possibly won't restore the car.

This car is also manufactured in New York and delivered on the East Coast and might have some history but that has not been verified yet.

One hell of a find and a neat piece of history only a few can appreciate but not at this time. I can only pray it gets back on the road fully restored because of its rare existence.

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #35 08-20-2001, 09:00 PM

SS427;
What kind of hood is on it??
M

**SS427** · #36 08-20-2001, 09:07 PM

It has a stock '69 Impala hood. I have never seen anything different, even on B/M cars. Maybe you didn't know I had been talking "Impala" all this time.......or did they have a special hood on these cars? I have never seen any reference to this before.

I do not however have any reason (yet) to suspect this is a B/M car or anything else for that matter. It's a bench seat/column shift car for one thing and VERY heavy.......

**Mr70** · #37 08-20-2001, 11:42 PM

Is it a convertible too?

**SS427** · #38 08-21-2001, 01:27 AM

Did I say that???? Funny YOU should mention that. Yes it is a convert. That's what makes it so rare. I have never seen or heard of one in twenty five years of collecting and researching these cars. It would be really neat if this had some East Coast history.

Some of you are likely cringing at the thought of driving a boat but this is one rare bird with high performance to boot.

By the way Rick, got your photo copy today, thank you. It is a little different than the one I found. A cold one commin' at ya!

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #39 08-21-2001, 01:21 PM

ss427:
I figured you were talking about an impala from your first post when you called it a 'chevrolet', instead of camaro/chevelle/ect....

We knew that the COPO Novas received a 'CY' trans in '68, along with the hi-po Vette's in '69, and various models in '70 after researching what the COPO Novas came with in '70. However, I did not know that an impala could have come with a 'CY' trans in '69. Very interesting car that you found.

I thought that the SS Impalas had different types of hood grilles in the center of the hood, depending on the particular year, (?). I remember seeing a black ss427 convertible from New York City at the PSMCDR a few years ago, it had some amazing wheelhop problems!
Marlin

**SS427** · #40 08-21-2001, 02:26 PM

Marlin, I got excited when I first saw the car but got really excited when I found the CY prefex. To the best of my research, this is quite possibly one of one as a convertible. Thats only important if you are into HEAVY performance. I am into rare cars as a whole so it's a moot point. I would love to restore this car because of it's rarity.

As I currently own all three years of the Z-24 SS427 option (67-69), this would also be a nice addition to my collection. You are correct in the hoods for the most part. '67 used a 'tear drop' dome on the hood with 3 simulated chrome openings, '68 used a raised 'cowl type' portion to the hood with a chrome vent at the rear of the hood. However, 69's did nothing to the hood to signify the SS427 Z-24 option as it was an option deleted in that year and they put no more money into them than they had to.

This is probably way more than anyone here cares about Impalas but they are rare to say the least. The average production of all three years was around 2000 issued. The hoods alone today are worth around $1500-2500 IF you can find one.

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