lemans skylark cutlass COPO?

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are there any documented buick, pontiac or olds copo cars from 68-69. something along the lines of "factory" oversize/horsepower engine in mid-sized model, but not a GTO, 442, GS etc... dennis

[442w30]

I guess a Hurst/Olds, kinda?

[Canuck]

The 68 Olds Cutlass Ram Rod come to mind. Predecessor to the W-31. Came out of Olds Engineering (Dave H jump in here)
Other than wagons Olds only offered their big engines (with 4 bbl)in the 442. In 70 they offered the 455 in an SX. As with most things in the late 60's if you ordered it,was patient,and got the right person than it got built.
To the best of my knowledge though there was no such thing as a w-30 type engine in anything other than a 442 as far as Olds is concerned. Also COPO is a Chevrolet term,not used by any other division. Oldsmobile used a term called Wholsale Car Order Form which was used for fleet (car rental companies) and the Hurst Olds Programs.

[1970Bluel78]

I seem to recall a 442 Wagon in 1970.Maybe 1 built....?????

[w302nv]

There is an older thread about this... In an article I have, Olds said specifically it had no plans to produce a "442 Wagon". There were wagons as previously stated with 455's and you could have probably arranged to get a W-25 hood from the dealer maybe the factory too, but there weren't any 442 Wagons...

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thanks canuck, i thought COPO was a GM term. i have wondered why none of the other GM model dealers did not follow suit with chevrolet. it seems pontiac would have been right on the coat tails of the L/72 chevelle/camaro with lemans/firebird versions. thanks for all the replies, dennis

[JLP]

Royal Pontiac, Knafel Pontiac and others were right in the thick of it pre'70 w/428 transplants in both FB and LeMans/Tempest/GTO.

In '70 the base GTO engine could be ordered in the tempest, in '71 the 455HO was available in any A body 2 dr (T-37, LeMans)(HT,Sedan,Conv) and in '72 the same was available in LeMans except for the Luxury LeMans. In '72 you had to order the endura nose w/RA but not in '71. Don't thing any other auto maker had that for '71/'72. If so would like to hear about it.

I like the wierd ones like the Chevelle 300 w/SS package or the '70 1/2 Falcon (Torino) sedan w/429 SCJ.

Unfortunately, today you have to order a 'package' to get any performance. Sure miss the 'good' old days.

Olds had the '70 Cutlass SX.

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jlp, thats what makes me wonder if any of those transplant dealers ever tried to order the 428 engine factory installed along the lines of the way chevy did with the 427? maybe the GM brass would not go for it? dennis

[442w30]

For one thing, Chevy had carte blanche with a lot of stuff that other GM brands could not get away with.

[1970Bluel78]

What about the Knafel Magnum 400 car. 50 or so built..???? Was that a COPO type deal with Pontiac