Barrett Jackson.....

[MGINLA]

I did not see any documentation and the buyer did not see any. So I do not know if it even exsits. The buyer knew nothing about Chevelles or the car. He like it and when the bidding droped from 70k to 60k he decided to jump in. He also was from FL and knew the seller (buy back?). He wanted know about any books to help him learn more and indicated he wanted to keep it. For the condition of the car it seemed like a good buy. It had some issues and I am no expert, but they were minor.

[GRB]

CJ - Being very interested in those cars 20 years ago and a member of the Shelby club and all that goes with that 'Blue Oval' to the core bunch, I remember things that I can't prove w/o some research BUT....CS was caught with his hand in the cookie jar more than once. The so-called missing Cobras, may have been some Mustangs too, was proven to be a scam which CS was intimately involved.

Just like people now build bogus, clone, recreation,
whatever you call them, Yenkos, people wanted Cobras. CS tried to stop them all and when he couldn't evidently wanted what amounted to extortion rather than a reasonable fee.

Remember that was 20 year ago. No Internet and no Google. This is what I remember from the newsletters of the day.
I do recall at the time the real owners absolutely hated the copycats. Visceral hatred. That may have changed. Would be interesting to know.

[TimG]

We just drove back to Austin from Phoenix, hit some snow in Tuscon. The low VIN Camaro sold for $69,000 and they had $60,000 in the car from what I heard. Probably a break even endeavor for them. Wish I had noticed the "N" in the engine stamp, how interesting.

Real cars with real paperwork and real motors did well. On Sunday, the original owner green '69 400 horse Corvette went for over 100K and the '72 LT 1 with gobs of paperwork (real) also went for over 100K. I was amazed by the number of cars that were advertised with real paperwork, but the paperwork was not available for viewing with the car. We were anxious to look at some specific cars advertised with a window sticker, but none was to be found and owners were not to be found. I'd have to assume that the paperwork is not real in these cases. I did see some fake paperwork being presented with some cars. They did not qualify the paperwork as "original" but the description said the car had a window sticker or some other paperwork. This to me implies a real one. Let me tell you that if I brought a car to this auction that had an original window sticker, I'd blow it up and present it on a billboard so it could be seen from across the parking lot.
Yes, there were some good deals. After the cameras went off on Saturday the place got very quiet and the guys I came with bought what I consider to be one of the most original 1,800 mile Hemi cars on earth at a very, very respectable price. I would imagine the seller anticipated two times what this car brought.

[Paul D]

The car Tim mentioned that we bought is a 1966 Hemi Satellite automatic with 1800 orig miles, Citron Gold with black buckets. It was lot 1342 and we paid 143k including the juice.

We didn't look it over to carefully before we bought it, in that it went across at about 11pm Saturday night, but later we crawled though it in a lot of detail, along with a few "hemi guys" that were around. This car is most unmolested showroom original that I have ever seen. The only things that seemed to be changed from factory new were the battery, exhaust, and tires. The blue streak original spare and jack appeared to never have been out of the trunk.

It spent 28 years in the Macroder (sp) Museum in Phoenix, was purchased new in Florida, and when the museum was dismantled went to a Ford collector in Washington around 2002, who traded it in on a new Ford GT last year. After we get a chance to sort out the names of the owners, we may need some help in tracking them down. It came with an original build sheet, and the fender tag is there.

Does anyone know this car??

[Paul D]

By the way, I also got that '64 Mercury R-Code at B-J. Looks like a nice original with all factory docs. Anyone familiar with that one? Lot 1020. I know......so much for downsizing the collection!

[Mr70]

Paul D
I would like to see and hear more about that 66 Hemi Satelite in the future.
Maybe a members rides feature?

[TimG]

The car looks like it left the factory last week, amazing.

[tom406]

That '66 Hemi Satellite is the real deal. I was walking through the big tent when I saw it, and I recognized it immediately. I then called my friend Gary (the Ford collector in Tacoma, WA, and previous owner) and said, "Hey, your Hemi Satellite is here!" He had no idea, and last he heard, one of the two guys who partnered to buy it decided to keep it for himself. Gary was watching the auction on TV, and was feeling a little sick, since after watching the '66 Coronet 4dr go for $600K, he was thinking that maybe this was the year for early Street Hemi cars to break the bank.

It was "predicted" to cross the block at 8pm on TV, but like many cars, it went much later in a largely vacant building, around 10:35 pm. I called Gary with the results of the auction, and he was both relieved (he did fine with his trade deal) and surprised (it is SO nice, you'd think it would do better).

I've spent hours looking at that car, and wrote up appraisals for it twice. It's so honest it hurts.

MacGruder owned it for a while-the original owner owned it and a Hemi Challenger with no miles as well, and MacGruder had both of them. When he liquidated, the Challenger sold quickly, but the Satellite was one of the last to go. Gary bought it, but had already bought a very nice 40K mile red/red '66 Hemi Satellite as his token Mopar. I guess the original owner put mags on it when new, but never drove/raced it. That's why the tires are repro, and the wheels and caps may not be original to the car. Otherwise, it is BRAND SPANKING NEW.

PM me if you'd like Gary's contact info, he'll be happy to know it went to a good home. He can be more specific with it's previous history as well. He's enjoying the GT, and still has around 30 vintage cars left, so he'll be fine.

I saw that Merc when I was in Minnesota a little while back. What a nice car. Knew his stuff, we talked about the history of the car, and about my 406 Galaxie, and the '64 Parklane Breezeway car I had bought from a friend in the same color combo.



TOM BRESKE
Seattle, WA

PS-Thanks to Denis for having the brunch, Tony (Mr.T) for shuttling me around while my family had the rental car, Mark Hassett and Budnate for the rum'n'cokes courtesy of the bidder's bar, and anyone else I ran into on my trip. I still can't believe it SNOWED on Sunday, but Monday was very nice, and we just came back today. Renting the house worked out really well, much better than hotel living.

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.......the description said the car had a window sticker or some other paperwork. This to me implies a real one......

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It's a shame how the scammers double talk has legally worked its way into our hobby; "Numbers matching" and "correct factory date coded equipment",
back in the old days that meant original, "born with" components. Do we need lawyers now to buy cars for us so we don't get ripped off? We can not count on the second hand descriptions by brokers and auctioneers to be anything but heresay. They quite clearly absolve themselves of any liability concerning a vehicles authenticity.
We're back to the sixties, "Let the buyer beware"

[Late BrakeU2]

There were some very nice documented cars there with storyboards and copies of their pedigree.One that came to mind was an Olympic gold cross ram that I believe sold for over 160k.
So if last year was percieved as the top,and this year some great values,what does 08 bring?.Maybe the fact everyone who watched from their living rooms last year sat up like prairie dogs in front of the TV and decided to head to boom town and cash in..the floor was certainly flooded with like cars and that allows for choice.

I didn't sell anything there but might at R&S next year.Can't see BJ going back to no reserve as SPEED would certainly object for obvious reasons.While I know some people are hopping mad at what their cars brought(and rightfully so) there has to be an almost equal and satisfied amount of buyers who scooped up some nice stuff at a song.I mean it's really no diff than Vegas with out a reserve right?.You're banking on the fact it will continue trending up .I equate it to stock trading-when the Jim Cramer idiot savants tell the retail fish to buy,buy,buy XYZ stock because it's undervalued it usually means the square side is more than willing to sell you their shares at that price(anyone remember the Wall St Journal feature on Boomers with Muscle in their portfolio last summer?)Don't get me wrong I have an LS6 and they took arguably the biggest hit of all,but to blame the auction house for not looking into their tea leaves and predicting a stabilizing market for sellers is not fair imo.Hopefully this was a healthy correction and soft landing,but it begs the question how will it affect the people who are doing high $$ restorations.So where to now St Peter?.