russo and steel chop job camaro copo

[quick-bowtie]

Very well said..

[Les Quam]

I am not sure why some of you are being so hard on the guy who started this thread? He has let us know that this car is clearly a re-body which is always nice information to make public as many times as possible so that the car is more widely known to be a re-body. If it's the one in the description the average buyer thinking it has Canadian paperwork and came from the RJ collection with CC paperwork might think he is safe to buy the car????

Not everyone goes to these auctions knowing many of the cars are re-bodied, that phantom bidders are the norm, that some of the largest muscle car dealers in the country routinely misrepresent their cars and that the auction house will not be sympathetic when you learn how muscle car world really works and you have been defrauded out of your money.

We need more of this information made available to more people in the faint hope that this hobby will someday clean itself up. Most of the people who post on this forum are veterans of the muscle car hobby and know it's corrupt from the top to the bottom and have learned to navigate through the sharks.

Unfortunately their are a lot of people with dreams of owning a real COPO Camaro or another muscle car of their dreams and have finally scraped up enough money to buy one and think the the auction or a well known dealer is a safe place to buy one and learn the hard way buying an authentic car is not as easy as they thought.

And lets be honest sometimes even the muscle car experts themselves get snookered such is the quality of the deceptions today. Sometimes even by guys you thought you could trust? Who among us who has been in the hobby for a long time hasn't been suckered at some point or another?

I say the value's of our muscle cars are directly related to the ability of people to buy with confidence at auctions and dealers. So whenever we can let others know of a problem we should encourage them??

[Belair62]

Maybe it would have been a good idea to ask some questions here before you went to the auction.

[Les Quam]

He is new to the forum maybe he didn't know about the forum until after he bought the car? I run into many people who don't have any idea how many sharks swim at the auctions when the sharks run their cars through. Heck even when you tell people they still don't believe you sometimes and get ripped off anyway both at dealers and at auctions.

[Jeff H]

I think this car was discussed before as a rebody. I have notes in my database it was listed on Ebay and was a rebody. Here's a related thread from here.

RS COPO Rebody

[ZL1#17]

Well stated I totally agree

[Les Quam]

Then again Karma can be a bitch sometimes when you buy.

[Belair62]

Les I am pretty sure Pete is a dealer in Florida, correct me if I'm wrong Pete. Not defending R/S but due diligence before purchase is always a good thing.

[ZL1#17]

So COPO Connection paperwork means nothing?

[quick-bowtie]

The car has a real COPO vin and paper work but no piece of paper/documentation is going to tell you its a rebody. Yes COPO paper work means alittle to most but that doesnt mean the car doesnt have issues.